A conversation between Janet Sussman and Doug Mackey (Oct 2010). Continued from Part Three.
D: It sounds as if, whether you’re talking about light in its cosmological aspect or light in its more material body aspect, it’s displaying the consciousness process within itself, self-creating an identity, a structure, through a conscious process. So what is the process of consciousness that we’re talking about that’s turning light into a denser form? It’s all happening within consciousness.
J: The light takes on dynamic movement. The most prominent, universal movement that the light takes on is a kind of pinwheel effect, like you see in the symbology for reiki, the spiral, the spin, the Fibonacci curve. That aspect of light is pretty much universal. As the light spins it literally weaves itself into matter. It creates a cocoon and it births matter out of itself.
D: They’ve found that the electron, traveling at the speed of light, is spinning itself, faster than the speed of light.
J: The spinning is one part of it and the other part is the gyroscope aspect. Light has a gyroscopic aspect that balances and moves dynamically, which would correspond to centrifugal and centripetal force. It’s like a washing machine, spinning and gyroscopic at the same time. If it’s off balance, the tub stops spinning. There has to be that balance. There has to be a certain measure of speed. Light does operate at different levels of speed, to form different levels of matter. But it’s communicating its needs and its structures to itself through sound. If you were to listen to every bit of matter, it would have sound to it.
D: If what you’re talking about is on this level where sound precedes light, it would have to be a very different kind of sound.
J: But it can be transduced down so that you can hear it and that’s why it sounds like a roar. That’s why the lion is such a powerful image. It seems that the primordial level of sound is a roar. There’s a roar and a hum, and the roar precedes the hum, because it’s disorganized, it’s anarchical. Essentially the sound gives instructions and organizes the light. But part of the light has to remain disorganized. There always has to be this anarchical, chaotic, unorganized aspect of light that underlies the organized aspect. They move back and forth with each other. You go from organized to unorganized and from unorganized to organized. That’s the dynamism; it goes back and forth. If it just stayed organized and there was no anarchy, there would be no liveliness. It would be a fixed set. It would be static. There wouldn’t be any creativity to it. The higher levels of creativity are necessitated by the chaos, which we understand because all creative processes emit chaos. You have to have randomization before you have order.
The organizing principle inherent in the chakra system is what enables the chakras to organize themselves into a light body. It organizes itself into a subtle and a gross anatomy. Each of the physical organs of the body has its own chakra system, its own memory chips, its own data storage capacity. They can exist unto themselves. That’s why when you do an organ transplant, you take a liver out of Doug and put it in Jan, that liver has its own intelligence. And that liver will always maintain some of Doug’s intelligence, some of Doug’s light energy, but it will adapt to a new system and become part of my body. The reason it can do that is because of the anarchical nature of the light intelligence, which will reorganize itself into a new configuration to conform to the new structures of the light body and the physical body.
However, if you take a living liver or a heart or a spleen out of somebody and you put it into somebody else, you’ve got a light body liver that’s functioning with one type of system and a physical body liver that’s functioning with a different type of system. This is a tremendously complex thing. That’s why they have to counteract a rejection. The reason the organ is getting rejected is because the old light body liver isn’t recognizing this thing. What are you doing here? You’re not me. I don’t know how to communicate with you. Get out of here! So they have to counteract the rejection mechanism of the light body. That’s why organ transplants right now are not ideal. It would actually be better to construct new organs out of our own light body that would code to our light body as opposed to bringing in someone else’s.