On Light (Part 6 of 6)

A conversation between Janet Sussman and Doug Mackey (Oct 2010). Continued from Part Five.

J: The notion of parallel realities becomes important in the concept of light because light refracts, so it’s always sending out many different possibilities of its own nature to creation, all simultaneously, all the time. The only reason we experience anything as stable is because there’s actually a quality in consciousness that is a stabilizer. That quality in consciousness which stabilizes makes everything visually replicative to us so that I can tell what this room is now and what it will be tomorrow. But without that stabilization in the brain, it would be like being on psychedelics. This room would look different every time you looked at it. However, the brain specifically has mechanisms to stabilize consciousness. Without replication you would not be able to see anything today, tomorrow and yesterday. You would be mad! Just as we need time codes to be able to function, we also need to be framed with reference to light.

There are beings out there that function without the stabilization of time and light. It’s not necessary for sentience. But it is necessary for our kind of sentience.

D: You said that sentience tags the light data that’s stored in memory. In order to create the stabilization, what is the process that results in the organization of the light bodies?

J: There is an entire stamp for humans and humanoids. We’re part of a larger species, which we would consider humanoids. So humanoid species look kind of like us but they have variations, like on Star Trek. There are zillions of these folks out there. We’re in the humanoid branch of creation. According to my teachers, the God-intelligence has branches and it branched off into humanoids. When the Bible says that we’re made in God’s image, that doesn’t mean that God looks like a human only. It means that there is an aspect of that God-intelligence that could be presented as human. It doesn’t mean that the God-intelligence is human or looks human.

The God-intelligence branches off into categories of sentient entities. In different parts of the galaxy there are certain species. Just like on our planet, there are certain categories of species. In our whole Milky Way galaxy there are certain beings that are in categories of sentience that exist here and they would be unlikely to exist in some other galaxy. They have different natural laws and they have different species. Just as when you go to the Amazon, you have different species than in North Carolina. The Milky Way galaxy has its own species associations, which are built on God’s intelligence differentiating into our location. As a result of that, there are other humans floating around in the Milky Way galaxy. We’re not the only ones. And there are other humanoids floating around in the Milky Way galaxy too. They’re all at different vibrational rates and at different dimensional expressions, so not all of the humans would be in our dimensional expression. There are humans on Venus right now. We can’t see them. It just like a ball of lava to us, but they’re there, because they’re on a different dimension, they’re at a different frequency. But if they were to materialize, like the guy who came to Congress and talked, you’d recognize them as human.

What makes us human is that we have a similar configuration in the light body, which may have some variance. A human on a different planet or dimension might have a different color of skin, but you could recognize them because there’s something about them that makes them human, that makes them identifiable to you, and that’s because they have a similar kind of light body, which is different from the physical body.

That’s also why, when you’re talking about reproduction, what’s reproducing? Your family characteristics are being reproduced through the light body system. It’s easier to think of it from a woman’s point of view because you have a man sending semen into a woman and now you have a being that looks like both people. How did that happen? That happened because of the light that’s being sent out from the man into the woman’s body. That’s what’s differentiating and creating the frequencies of the child, the replicative being. What really causes reproduction is the light communicating with itself through a physical structure.

On Light (Part 5 of 6)

A conversation between Janet Sussman and Doug Mackey (Oct 2010). Continued from Part Four.

D: The basis of the light body, you have said, is in this aspect of smriti, where light gets stored stored in memory, which is some aspect of the spatial dimension. It’s stored in a kind of random-access memory. It doesn’t have any attributes. It’s initially addressed in a random location. At this point it’s kind of quantized. Until it receives this initial stamping, does it have any quantization initially or does the act of sticking it into storage create a quantization?

J: It’s both. The light is quantized and it’s not quantized. The part that is quantized is the part that can get addressed, stamped and organized.

D: Light as we know it is both particle and wave.

J: The quantum piece of it turns into these things that we’re talking about. The un-quantized part always remains.

D: That would be closer to the sound value.

J: This is the part that I’m still grasping, because I don’t quite understand it yet.
But as I do see that sound precedes light because sound doesn’t need any organization to function. Light needs organization, matter needs organization, but sound does not need organization to function. Sound can function without organization because of its nature.

The God-intelligence, the God-force, being itself made of sound, doesn’t need any organization to function. It can create organization, but it can stay in an unorganized state and function. It can be chaotic, it can be anarchical; it doesn’t need organization but it enjoys experimenting with it. The God-intelligence takes pleasure in organization. That’s why things get organized. But it doesn’t need organization to function. By the same token sound doesn’t need organization to function.

The light takes in the sound and downloads the sound into it and then it speaks to itself with that sound. The God-intelligence replicates itself through light, because replication is organization. When you’re in organization you’re in the light realm, not the sound realm.

When people lose their sanity, what they’ve really lost are their organizational capacities. They are back to anarchy, essentially. They’ve lost the organization, which means that the light intelligence isn’t communicating properly with itself. What causes that? In many cases, trauma causes it. Trauma is a kind of interference pattern in the light organization. There’s trauma you have as a person but there’s also universal or cosmic trauma.

The sound can live in this undifferentiated state. For it to form music, it creates sequences. Sequences are built from algorithms. These algorithms are much more complex and also simpler than some other type of dimensional mathematics that describe this, but an algorithm is the closest thing we’ve got. An algorithm is a pattern.

D: Algorithms sound very complicated but when you study computer science, for example, the basic algorithms are very simple ideas, such as repetition, where you repeat something. You can make that more complicated by changing it every time you repeat it. Maybe you play half a step higher every time. You change it a little bit and then you create a form. You get a pattern out of it. Plug in a mathematical equation and fractals and beautiful forms, amazingly complex, flow out of that. But the basic algorithms are easy to understand.

J: Right now, because we’re in the third dimension, our light intelligence translation process is kind of flat. When it pops out into the fifth dimension it becomes more intelligent and simple because it’s closer to what it really is. Fractals are getting close to that truth.

D: You’ve got this principle that within this particular algorithm there is an embedded structure which replicates the higher level of the structure from what it started from. You can travel into it infinitely and get manifestations of that same design.

J: The universe is a big mirror. It’s a mirroring aspect where it mirrors itself. That’s what parallel realities are; they’re fractal mirrors of this reality. They’re not distortions; they’re mirroring with slightly different characteristics.

D: You’re never going to locate the original of the pattern, because every manifestation of the pattern has a little variability to it, because there’s never anything the same in the universe, like snowflakes.

J: Or leaves, or you or anything else.

D: You have these correspondences and these mystical signatures, which indicates some kind of principle of organization, a higher order, a template of some kind, which underlies the distinct manifestation.

J: That’s what the crop circles portray. They’re portraying those patterns, those tattoos. That’s what these extraterrestrial folks are trying to show us, that these things are pre-existent of our creation of matter.

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On Light (Part 4 of 6)

A conversation between Janet Sussman and Doug Mackey (Oct 2010). Continued from Part Three.

D: It sounds as if, whether you’re talking about light in its cosmological aspect or light in its more material body aspect, it’s displaying the consciousness process within itself, self-creating an identity, a structure, through a conscious process. So what is the process of consciousness that we’re talking about that’s turning light into a denser form? It’s all happening within consciousness.

J: The light takes on dynamic movement. The most prominent, universal movement that the light takes on is a kind of pinwheel effect, like you see in the symbology for reiki, the spiral, the spin, the Fibonacci curve. That aspect of light is pretty much universal. As the light spins it literally weaves itself into matter. It creates a cocoon and it births matter out of itself.

D: They’ve found that the electron, traveling at the speed of light, is spinning itself, faster than the speed of light.

J: The spinning is one part of it and the other part is the gyroscope aspect. Light has a gyroscopic aspect that balances and moves dynamically, which would correspond to centrifugal and centripetal force. It’s like a washing machine, spinning and gyroscopic at the same time. If it’s off balance, the tub stops spinning. There has to be that balance. There has to be a certain measure of speed. Light does operate at different levels of speed, to form different levels of matter. But it’s communicating its needs and its structures to itself through sound. If you were to listen to every bit of matter, it would have sound to it.

D: If what you’re talking about is on this level where sound precedes light, it would have to be a very different kind of sound.

J: But it can be transduced down so that you can hear it and that’s why it sounds like a roar. That’s why the lion is such a powerful image. It seems that the primordial level of sound is a roar. There’s a roar and a hum, and the roar precedes the hum, because it’s disorganized, it’s anarchical. Essentially the sound gives instructions and organizes the light. But part of the light has to remain disorganized. There always has to be this anarchical, chaotic, unorganized aspect of light that underlies the organized aspect. They move back and forth with each other. You go from organized to unorganized and from unorganized to organized. That’s the dynamism; it goes back and forth. If it just stayed organized and there was no anarchy, there would be no liveliness. It would be a fixed set. It would be static. There wouldn’t be any creativity to it. The higher levels of creativity are necessitated by the chaos, which we understand because all creative processes emit chaos. You have to have randomization before you have order.

The organizing principle inherent in the chakra system is what enables the chakras to organize themselves into a light body. It organizes itself into a subtle and a gross anatomy. Each of the physical organs of the body has its own chakra system, its own memory chips, its own data storage capacity. They can exist unto themselves. That’s why when you do an organ transplant, you take a liver out of Doug and put it in Jan, that liver has its own intelligence. And that liver will always maintain some of Doug’s intelligence, some of Doug’s light energy, but it will adapt to a new system and become part of my body. The reason it can do that is because of the anarchical nature of the light intelligence, which will reorganize itself into a new configuration to conform to the new structures of the light body and the physical body.

However, if you take a living liver or a heart or a spleen out of somebody and you put it into somebody else, you’ve got a light body liver that’s functioning with one type of system and a physical body liver that’s functioning with a different type of system. This is a tremendously complex thing. That’s why they have to counteract a rejection. The reason the organ is getting rejected is because the old light body liver isn’t recognizing this thing. What are you doing here? You’re not me. I don’t know how to communicate with you. Get out of here! So they have to counteract the rejection mechanism of the light body. That’s why organ transplants right now are not ideal. It would actually be better to construct new organs out of our own light body that would code to our light body as opposed to bringing in someone else’s.

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On Light (Part 3 of 6)

A conversation between Janet Sussman and Doug Mackey (Oct 2010). Continued from Part Two.

D: People tend to have a certain fixed concept of the light body and what the chakras look like. But that’s a very schematic way of regarding it. We’re actually looking at the subtle level of the body as being composed of light. When you get into subtler levels of the body you get into subtler structures, characteristic forms that are constantly changing. It’s very kaleidoscopic and superfluid.

J: It’s moving all the time because of the wave value. It’s constantly moving, constantly changing. Basically all that happens in movement is that you’re exerting consciousness into the field to exert some particular effect. The wave value affects the particle value and changes the structure.

D: In order to understand that, first of all you have to get the equation that matter equals energy, according to Einstein, and we’re looking more at the energy level of the body. And light energy is a type of energy that can be converted through consciousness into a denser form that can then be apprehended by the senses and experienced by the mind.

J: A further twist is that it seems that sentience in human beings is not confined to a light body, just like it’s not confined to a physical body. Somehow, sentience can exist without any body.

D: The whole basis of your theory is that there is an interaction between mind and matter, and the mediator is consciousness or intelligence.

J: I wouldn’t say that consciousness is the mediator. You have the light body and you have the structures of the light body, and the structures of the light body are holding memory. In order for memory to exist it has to be fueled by pure consciousness. Pure consciousness is a actually a form of differentiation from pure existence. It comes out of the pure existence package.

D: Look at it in terms of the knower, the process of knowing, and the known, or rishi, devata, and chhandas. If you look at the devata value, where transformation is happening, the whole grammar of creation gets transformed. Rishi is the subject, devata is the verb, and chhandas is the object. The active part of that is what we’re calling pure consciousness, pure intelligence, which enables the light to be acted upon to be known.

J: Light talks to itself in its own dynamism.

D: As in the self-interacting dynamics of pure intelligence.

J: Light talks to itself. That’s why the chakras talk to themselves. . . . The chakra system has to become articulate and has to talk to itself in order for the permutations, one to five, four to six, and that articulation creates a network which makes light able to travel through the entire light-body system. Also, with the light intelligence becoming articulate, it can actually communicate to the brain and the central nervous system and differentiate it back out again to the subtlest level.

The whole notion of light is that it congeals and uncongeals, it aggregates and unaggregates, it contracts and expands, and it does this under pressure. That’s why you have different kinds of pressure in the body, like blood pressure. All these different types of experiences of pressure that we have are literally created from the level of pressure.

That’s what pulses are. In ayurvedic pulse diagnosis, you’re experiencing different levels of pressure on the level of light and sound, because it’s communicating through sound, which is what light does. But if you just stayed on the level of light, you’d be communicating through light and pressure. And that can tell you everything about a body. An ayurvedic doctor can tell you everything about your physical and subtle bodies through pulse diagnosis, because the pulse has all that information in it from the memory level.

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On Light (Part 2 of 6)

A conversation between Janet Sussman and Doug Mackey (Oct 2010). Continued from Part One.

J: The brain is a mechanism for interpreting light, for storing memory. But the brain would be absolutely useless, it would just be a piece of junk matter floating around if you didn’t have a light body made of chakras. The chakras are where the data storage occurs and the chakra feeds that into the physical brain. The light that the chakra feeds goes into the photosensitivity of the brain, and the entire brain is photosensitive, not just one portion of it. Every chakra feeds every portion of the brain. That’s where the information is missing, the notion that the root chakra is your tribe and feeds your identity. In a way there’s differentiation, but truly the root chakra is feeding information to every single aspect of the brain. All the chakras are feeding the entirety of the brain information from the chakras.

D: The whole body has these little chakras too.

J: Billions of them.

D: What we call the big chakras, do they collect all the information?

J: Right, they’re aggregates. They are aggregated light formations that are built upon the quanta in the light body. Every chakra has a kind of sensitivity like the brain does; it’s photosensitive, it’s picking up light. It receives light and it also gives light out. That’s why you have an aura, because the light flows into you and the light is flowing out of you. That light that’s flowing in and out, the pulsation of the in and out movement in the chakra, is actually what maintains the structure of the chakra. The structure is being maintained through that in and out movement, it’s being maintained through the spin, through that gyroscopic motion, the different spins inside the chakras. The structure of the chakra has to be built.

Then there’s a containment field of the chakra, and guess what? The containment field is built out of dark matter; that’s what exerts the pressure that maintains the structure of the light body and maintains the structure of the chakra system. For every chakra there’s a huge amount of this dark matter that is essentially the backdrop for the chakra. So what we think of as a chakra is a containment field that is imposed upon itself by the pressure that the dark matter is exerting.

When there’s trauma to the chakra, every single thing that happens, every emotion, every sensation imprints itself on the chakras. It doesn’t just imprint itself in one chakra, it imprints itself in every chakra.

These billions of “minor” chakras are actually not so minor. But in terms of the understanding of this containment field, these multidimensional quantized chakras are being created because there’s pressure. If there were no pressure, then all the light intelligence would be scattered into these many little chakras and you would not be able to interpret your experience. You would be a different kind of being if you had no chakra containment field. You wouldn’t be human. Who knows what you would be? You’d be intelligent but you wouldn’t have chakras, because the chakras condense everything under pressure.

Because the chakras are completely holographic, they are sending information to every single aspect of your body at every moment in time and space, and they’re always doing that. They’re sending information to your brain. I talk about the stem of the heart, but the stem idea is completely related to the brain, the brain stem. The brain stem is the physicalized version of the stem, or sushumna, of the chakras. It captures the cerebrospinal fluid and comes up into the brain stem and goes into the occiput and so forth.

The reason that’s so important is that the brain stem is the most amazing, complex thing that you can imagine. And it’s gorgeous too. When you take it apart and look at it on the level of light, it’s absolutely magnificent. It’s like looking into the most beautiful flower. It’s awesome, like looking into the universe.

The brain stem is more about the functionality of the chakras, whereas the heart is where the memory is. A lot of the memory system for the chakras is in the heart—that’s why it’s the governing chakra. But the brain stem and the stem that runs through the entire chakra system is the most compressed area of the light body. The physical spine and all the nerves in the spine are under tremendous amounts of pressure. It’s the pressure that causes you to be upright—otherwise you’d be like a monkey on all fours. What makes you homo erectus is because the light body is under pressure that keeps it upright, through the gyroscopic motion of the chakras and this containment of the chakras. Otherwise you would not have a fixed spinal column. Invertebrate animals have a different type of light process going on because they don’t have a hardened vertebral system.

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On Light (Part 1 of 6)

A conversation between Janet Sussman and Doug Mackey (Oct. 2010)

D: We’re starting with your idea of light being directed by intelligence or consciousness and ending up in a more densified form, which is equivalent to all the forms of matter, the bodily organs and systems, and subtle levels and gross levels of matter. The first thing that happens is that all this is on a background of pure existence and out of that comes light, which is stored in space in randomized form in what we know as smriti or memory. That light information can then be used, converted into information, in a dense form of matter itself. Do you want to talk some more about what happens when light gets stored in this first phase?

J: Are we talking about the body or the universe?

D: I think we should just talk about the mechanics right now. Realizing that there is a more universal aspect to this whole process, encountering light and making matter, we’re talking about God’s level.

J: That’s right where we are in this discussion. The God level seems to be about sound. The sound level goes to the light level and the light level talks to itself through sound.

D: So even though sound as we know it is a much slower transmission of a wave vibration than light, you’re saying that some aspect of sound is subtler than light?

J: Right. Sound is actually faster than light, at that mechanics level.

D: A sound like the om vibration is universal, the basis of all that is.

J: Exactly. At the level of the mantras, sound precedes light and everything comes from the sound. That means that the God-intelligence is operating from pure existence to sound, to light, to matter. God is the horn of the universe. It’s like the chaufar, which is used to actualize the ceremony, because it’s a fundamental sound in nature and it’s connected to the God-intelligence. The memory aspect is crucially important because it’s what forms our experience of our personal existence. We would stay as completely transpersonalized entities without a personal experience. We would not have personalities, we would not have ego structures, we would not have a life like we have now with objects or anything, if it weren’t for the fact that the memory part materializes or comes into fullness through the light intelligence. So a concept is essentially a form of light. It’s an organizational structure based upon light intelligence.

D: When you think of the idea of concept, of conception, it’s a reproduction of something. You’re dealing with concepts, with this aspect of self-replication as a means to self-identification. It’s like people who have to have kids in order to feel who they are in the scheme of things and perpetuate their names. They have to self-reference through conception in order to have a conception of themselves.

J: The body has a sound code that assists the replicating. The genes have a sound, Not only that but the alleles that make the genes, the chromosomes, all have sound. In nature the replication of sound and rhythm is everywhere. Turn on your water faucet and listen to the replication value of sound. It’s everywhere in nature. Everything is replicative. It repeats itself. It’s a very powerful part of the memory process. Melodies repeat themselves. Memories repeat themselves over and over with different flavors of understanding. The repetitive nature of consciousness is very important for consciousness to become conscious. It’s crucial. The repetition, the rhythm, the syntax, the intonation, those aspects of music are very powerfully important to understanding memory. Part of the storage aspect differentiates into those things, rhythm, syntax, intonation as part of the memory process.

D: Could you talk a bit about what happens with the stamping when light gets addressed?

J: First of all, you have this faster than the speed of light sound and it actually hits some kind of a wall. It bounces off the light wall. When it hits the wall, when it hits the light, it stamps it. The sound is actually what stamps it. It’s the frequency that stamps it. That stamping is a blueprint or a design or a tattoo, but it’s actually made from sound imprinting itself on the light. Just like you see in those pictures of sound imprinting patterns in the water from that scientist who’s been studying the crystalline structure of water, he sends sound through the water. It’s just like that. Sound imprints itself on the light and creates crystalline structures or designs or tattoos, and those tattoos form the differentiation of matter.

D: In terms of storage, when light is stored as memory in space, does it inherently have to be in a stored form when it gets to where it is tattooed and can it be in a free state as well?

J: It absolutely can be in a free state. Most light remains in a free state and it doesn’t differentiate, it stays in a non-differentiated state. But some of it differentiates and there’s a portion of the light intelligence that creates or propels the differentiation. It’s almost on the level of God’s will or desire that makes that differentiation happen and turns it into light and matter.

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